Alexei comments on Help Request: Cryonics Policies - Less Wrong

12 Post author: Normal_Anomaly 18 June 2011 06:58PM

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Comment author: jsalvatier 19 June 2011 01:05:09AM *  4 points [-]

I signed up for CI but not for thoroughly researched reasons. I knew I wasn't going to be able to motivate myself to do in depth research, so I just made the decision on superficial grounds:

  • EY was signed up through CI
  • I knew Rudi Hoffman would help with the process for CI (I think he does both, but that was not my impression before I had talked to him)
  • whole body suspension didn't seem to be obviously better and was significantly cheaper

I'd be interested in helping to sponsor a prize to create a post that summarizes the scientific literature and arguments relevant to cryonics decisions. I am currently trying to figure out what works and what doesn't for getting projects like this one done. I'm starting small (i.e. the Anki prize), but I eventually hope to get to more difficult topics like this one.

Comment author: Alexei 19 June 2011 01:11:31AM 4 points [-]

I will second John here. I have also signed up with CI for pretty much the same reasons (cheaper + EY). Rudi Hoffman is a fantastic insurance salesman and a pleasure to work with.

From what I heard from an Alcor representative: you essentially get a bit more security from them, than you would from CI. (Ben Best didn't seem to disagree.) CI is really committed to keeping the costs down, but from their presentation I gathered that they don't really cut the important corners, so they seem like a very good choice.

Comment author: Alicorn 19 June 2011 01:32:29AM 13 points [-]

Rudi Hoffman is ... a pleasure to work with.

YMMV. I found him so unpleasant that I used a different insurance guy rather than continue interacting with him.

Comment author: jsalvatier 21 June 2011 06:18:49PM 8 points [-]

It may be helpful to others if you describe what you found unpleasant about him.

Comment author: Alicorn 21 June 2011 06:22:21PM *  25 points [-]

He was very sales-y, trying to build up a personal rapport with me, and he was bad at it. (Example: I told him that I worked for Singinst, and then later he was talking about Singularity University like the fact that he knew to mention it was a point in his favor, when it in fact had nothing to do with me.)

He also reacted in a way I found suspicious when I received third-party information to the effect that his proposed insurance rates weren't any good and I wanted to wait and do more research.

Comment author: Adele_L 05 June 2014 01:09:06AM 0 points [-]

Who did you end up going through? Was their service satisfying?

Comment author: Alicorn 05 June 2014 07:10:03AM 1 point [-]

I have insurance through New York Life, who oblige me by conducting business without any recourse to telephones. I'm not actually sure I'm getting a particularly good price, but it's within my means and I only have to think about it once annually.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 19 June 2011 01:22:56AM 0 points [-]

Thank for the info! I want a cheap policy mostly so I can tell my relatives it's cheap, but not if that means getting inferior preservation. Also, I'm glad to know there's an insurance agent who can help me set things up.