I think we're failing to communicate, because that distinction is an important part of what I'm getting at. The proponents of consciousness-as-fundamental show no sign of having any interest in making consciousness into part of a theory that's any use, and that's part of what I think is wrong with what they're saying
As I pointed out, physicalists don't have a solution to the Hard Problem either. You say they are trying and dualists aren't, but you offer no evidence.
that is difficult to answer succinctly.
You seem not to be willing to try to answer at all.
That is because it is difficult. As I said.
you won't say whether you think there's a useful theory that includes consciousness as a fundamental phenomenon, you hint vaguely that there might be such a theory a
I'm sorry, but I'm just not saying the things you think I am saying. What I said was:
"what is going on at this stage is not really theorisation,. but speculation about the form a theory should take"
ETA
The point is not that dualism is true and physicalism false. The point was only ever that dualism is not as obviously false as sometimes made out.
Evidence that physicalists have been trying: books like Dennett's "Consciousness explained" and Edelman's "Neural Darwinism" and Koch's "The quest for consciousness" and so forth, all putting forward hypotheses about what physical goings-on give rise to consciousness and how.
Evidence that dualists aren't trying (more specifically, not trying to do more than just say "Consciousness is fundamental, and that's all there is to it" or something else that similarly tries to take credit for solving the problem without doing...
Background
I was raised in the Churches of Christ and my family is all very serious about Christianity. About 3 years ago, I started to ask some hard questions, and the answers from other Christians were very unsatisfying. I used to believe that the Bible was, you know, inspired by a loving God, but its endorsement of genocide, the abuse of slaves, and the mistreatment of women and children really started to bother me.
I set out to study these issues as much as I could. I stayed up past midnight for weeks reading what Christians have to say, and this process triggered a real crisis of faith. What started out as a search for answers on Biblical genocide led me to places like commonsenseatheism.com. I learned that the Bible has serious credibility problems on lots of issues that no one ever told me about. Wow.
My Question
Now I'm pretty sure that the God of the Bible is man-made and Jesus of Nazareth was probably a failed prophet, but I don't have good reasons to reject the supernatural all together. I'm working through the sequences, but this process is slow. I will probably struggle with this question for months, maybe longer.
Excluding the Supernatural was interesting, but it left me wanting a more thorough explanation. Where do you think I should go from here? Should I just continue reading the sequences, and re-read them until the ideas gel? I'm coming from 30 years of Sunday School level thinking. It's not like I grew up with words like "epistemology" and "epiphenomenalism". If there is no supernatural, and I can be confident about that, I will need to re-evaluate a lot of things. My worldview is up for grabs.