AShepard comments on Reasons for being rational - Less Wrong

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Comment author: AShepard 26 June 2011 04:51:13PM 0 points [-]

I simply care a lot about the truth and I care comparatively less about what people think (in general and also about me), so I'm often not terribly concerned about sounding agreeable.

Can you clarify this statement? As phrased, it doesn't quite mesh with the rest of your self-description. If you truly did not care about what other people thought, it wouldn't bother you that they think untrue things. A more precise formulation would be that you assign little or no value to untrue beliefs. Furthermore, you assign very little value to any emotions that for the person are bound up in their holding that belief.

The untrue belief and the attached emotions are not the same thing, though they are obviously related. It does not follow from "untrue beliefs deserve little respect" that "emotions attached to untrue beliefs deserve little respect". The emotions are real after all.

Comment author: Friendly-HI 26 June 2011 09:11:31PM *  0 points [-]

If you truly did not care about what other people thought

vs.

I care comparatively less about what people think

You're right about the emotions part, but I'm certainly not bashing people as hard as Dr. House and I'm also not gonna take nice delusions of heaven away from poor old granny. Yes, of cause I too care about the emotions of people, depending on the person and the specific circumstances.

I'm also usually not the one to open up the conversation on the kind of topics we discuss here, but if people share their opinion I'll often throw my weight in and voice my unusual opinions without too much concern about tiptoeing around sensibilities of -say- the political, religious or the new age types.

Of cause I'm not claiming to be a total hardliner, deep within my brain there is such a thing as a calculation taking place about whether or not giving my real opinion to person X Y and Z will result in too much damage for me, others, or our relationship... it's just that I'm less inclined to be agreeable in comparison with others. I'm not claiming to be brain damaged after all, of cause I care as well to some (considerably less than average) extent about social repercussions.

Addendum: Agreeableness is also something that is known to rise with progressing age, so it's likely that I will become more agreeable over time, seeing how I'm still just 23. Another factor in agreeableness is impulsiveness, which thankfully diminishes with age - and I'm a fairly impulsive person. Agreeableness isn't just composed of "one thing", it's the result of several interactions.

Comment author: Swimmer963 26 June 2011 09:33:31PM 1 point [-]

Addendum: Agreeableness is also something that is known to rise with progressing age, so it's likely that I will become more agreeable over time, seeing how I'm still just 23. Another factor in agreeableness is impulsiveness, with also diminishes with age - and I'm a fairly impulsive person.

I'm 19, and I'm already one of the most agreeable and least impulsive people I know. I'm fucked...

Comment author: Friendly-HI 26 June 2011 09:43:04PM *  0 points [-]

Maybe you should consider a career in politics where having a spine is optional :P

EDIT: Wait, what am I saying... it's of cause not optional but actually prohibitively costly.

Comment author: Swimmer963 26 June 2011 11:13:06PM 4 points [-]

Maybe you should consider a career in politics.

No way! There's a possibility I wouldn't be able to keep everyone happy all the time! There's a possibility people would dislike me for policies I implemented! It would be WAY too stressful!

Comment author: loup-vaillant 27 June 2011 01:55:41PM 0 points [-]

of cause

Second time I catch this, so it may not be a mere typo. Did you mean "of course", in the sense of "obviously"?

Comment author: Friendly-HI 27 June 2011 02:34:40PM 2 points [-]

English is my 3rd language, so unfortunately it wasn't really just a typo. Now that you pointed it out of course the mistake is obvious to me.