Hariant comments on Reasons for being rational - Less Wrong
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You're the negative mirror image of myself.
I'm very lucky to live in this day and age. If I was born any sooner, (or in some other place) I'd probably be killed by some aggravated superstitious mob or the officials - that is if I was indeed stupid enough to talk as I please. Contrariety and a need to oppose run incredibly deep within me.
I am majorly disgusted by religion and have real trouble to sit through a church service. I'm just counting down the minutes while mentally cringing at virtually every single stupid thing the pathetically deluded pastor drivels from the pulpit, until at last the primitive medieval circus grinds to a halt and I feel like can finally take a deep breath of sanity once I left the building.
I despise human hypocrisy intensely and am somewhat nauseated every time I detect it in others and myself. But ultimately, I believe at the very bottom of my behavior lies a simple mixture of genetic components and what I picked up from my father (who was also somewhat of a rebel in the former Soviet Union, but without any real opportunity to vent). Maybe it runs even deeper than that and I'm just the human archetype of the "male rogue" that can be encountered in many species - not dominant or agreeable enough to gain the status of an alpha male, but way too pretentious and certainly not submissive enough to suck up to anyone or cut back on my directness. I'm not quite as disagreeable as Dr. House fortunately, but he could serve as an exaggerated caricature of myself if I felt miserable and took any pleasure in cynicism.
In many ways I wish I were more like you, it would certainly make my life and enduring (some) human company so much easier. People only want to hear what they like to hear and I almost can't help myself but to provoke and startle, if given the opportunity.
At any rate you got nothing to apologize for. If anything, your attitude is much better suited than mine, if your goal is to make other people think more rational. I'm sure you can spin things in such a way, that will enable you to much more easily and effectively convert people into rationalists, than any confrontational hardliner could hope to accomplish in comparison. As long as you don't allow yourself (or others) to sucker you out of your rational frame of mind, your "skill" of hyper-agreeableness is much more of an asset than you seem to realize. Agreeableness indeed seems to be a rather rare social skill around these parts of the internet and the overall rationalist community.
We need more people like you around, especially for PR-purposes.
Addendum: By the way, I may have to clarify that my disgust with religiosity doesn't extend to the people themselves. Often my attitude may get misinterpreted as me somehow despising religious people, which is not the case at all. I suppose an intuitive explanation of how I feel about religion would be to imagine that you're the parent of a "disconnected" Scientologist. You can hate every single bit of the meme with every fiber in your body but still love the person "infected". I suspect many rationalists feel similarly. Religion is a grim reflection of just about anything that's terribly wrong with human cognition and morality - and instead of being actively opposed and ironed out, our society indulges in superstition and dresses it up with nice colors and hats and even let's it run the show. It just utterly crushes my spirit when I hear something like "representatives of the church attend a meeting with politics and industry to discuss the future of nuclear energy" - as if a pastor or bishop actually knows anything about anything. (Let alone something about morality and ethics).
For an ironically religious meme comparison "Love the sinner; hate the sin."