Sewing-Machine comments on Hanson Debating Yudkowsky, Jun 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 03 July 2011 11:28:35PM 18 points [-]

Hanson often takes his turn to speak this way: he summarizes Yudkowsky's last argument, in a way that at least superficially does not seem unfair or tendentious, then explains why he doesn't find it compelling, then explains why his own position is more compelling.

Yudkowsky seems to respond to Hanson's points without summarizing them first.

I find Hanson to be hugely more effective in the recording. Is it because of this? I was less sympathetic to Yudkowsky's point of view before I started listening, so it's hard for me to tell if this is an illusion.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 05 July 2011 03:32:51AM 5 points [-]

In this recording (and to a lesser extent in the debate with Caplan), Hanson is much louder than his opponent, probably because of microphone placement. I expect that this makes him more effective, though I haven't listened to it much.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 July 2011 06:45:35AM 3 points [-]

I find Hanson to be hugely more effective in the recording. Is it because of this?

Partly. Hanson is a far more powerful rhetorician then Eliezer. He speaks with the kind of language that is far more persuasive to the majority of people. It is only a narrow audience with particularly high standards with respect to judging "tendentious" tendencies for whom his style backfires.

Comment author: XiXiDu 04 July 2011 12:19:18PM *  4 points [-]

Hanson is a far more powerful rhetorician then Eliezer. He speaks with the kind of language that is far more persuasive to the majority of people.

Off-topic: How do you like the style of Nick Bostrom? Here is another video of him.