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Ah, excellent. This post comes at a great time. A few weeks ago, I talked with someone who remarked that although decision theory speaks in terms of preferences and information being separate, trying to apply that into humans is fitting the data to the theory. He was of the opinion that humans don't really have preferences in the decision theoretic sense of the word. Pondering that claim, I came to the conclusion that he's right, and have started to increasingly suspect that CEV-like plans to figure out the "ultimate" preferences of people are somewhat misguided. Our preferences are probably hopelessly path-, situation- and information-dependent. Which is not to say that CEV would be entirely pointless - even if the vast majority of our "preferences" would never converge, there might be some that did. And of course, CEV would still be worth trying, just to make sure I'm not horribly mistaken on this.
The ease at which I accepted the claim "humans don't have preferences" makes me suspect that I've myself had a subconscious intuition to that effect for a long time, which was probably partially responsible for an unresolved disagreement between me and Vladimir Nesov earlier.
I'll be curious to hear what you have to say.
Related: I recommend to those who think that CEV is insufficiently meta that they read CFAI, and try to go increasingly meta from there instead. Expanding themes from CFAI to make them more timeless is also recommended; CFAI is inherently more timeless than CEV -- that's semi-personal jargon but perhaps the gist is sufficiently hinted at. Note that unlike metaness, timelessness is often just a difference of perspective or emphasis. I assert that CEV is a bastardized popularization of the more interesting themes originally presented in CFAI, and should not be taken very seriously. CFAI shouldn't either--most of it is useless--but it at least highlights some good intuitions. Edit: I do not mean to recommend proposing solutions or proposing not-solutions, I recommend the meta-level strategy of understanding and developing intuitions and perspectives.