lukeprog comments on The Blue-Minimizing Robot - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lukeprog 08 August 2011 01:27:42AM 2 points [-]

I very much look forward to your short sequence on this. I hope you will also explain your notion of dependence in detail.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 03 September 2011 10:53:50PM 1 point [-]

For the record, I mostly completed a draft of a prerequisite post (first of the two I had in mind) a couple of weeks ago, and it's just no good, not much better than what one would take away from reading the previously published posts, and not particularly helpful in clarifying the intuition expressed in the above comments. So I'm focusing on improving my math skills, which I expect will help with formalization/communication problem (given a few months), as well as with moving forward. I might post some version of the post, but it seems it won't be able to serve the previously intended purpose.

Comment author: lukeprog 03 September 2011 10:59:35PM 0 points [-]

Bummer.

As for communication, it would help me (at least) if you used words in their normal senses unless they are a standard LW term of art (e.g. 'rationalist' means LW rationalist not Cartesian rationalist ) or unless you specify that you're using the term in an uncommon sense.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 03 September 2011 11:05:17PM 0 points [-]

it would help me (at least) if you used words in their normal senses

Don't see how this is related to this thread, and correspondingly what kinds of word misuse you have in mind.

Comment author: lukeprog 03 September 2011 11:12:51PM 0 points [-]

It isn't related to this thread. I was thinking of past confusions between us over 'metaethics' and 'motivation' and 'meaning' where I didn't realize until pretty far into the discussion that you were using these terms to mean something different than they normally mean. I'd generally like to avoid that kind of thing; that's all I meant.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 03 September 2011 11:19:06PM *  0 points [-]

Well, I'm mostly not interested in the concepts corresponding to how these words are "normally" used. The miscommunication problems resulted from both me misinterpreting your usage, and your misinterpreting my usage. I won't be misinterpreting your usage in similar cases in the future, as I now know better what you mean by which words, and in my own usage, as we discussed a couple of times, I'll be more clear through using disambiguating qualifiers, which in most cases amounts to writing word "normative" more frequently.

(Still unclear/strange why you brought it up in this particular context, but no matter...)

Comment author: lukeprog 04 September 2011 12:18:42AM 0 points [-]

Yup, that sounds good.

I brought it up because you mentioned communication, and your comment showed up in my LW inbox today.