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Comment author: Raw_Power 06 July 2011 08:31:29PM 0 points [-]

How does Hypnotism even work?

Comment author: jimmy 06 July 2011 11:17:43PM 14 points [-]

As Peterdjones said, a lot of it is metasuggestion. However, that is not the whole story, and there are ways to get the same effects without using the word "hypnosis".

On top of that, most of the interesting stuff just got buried under the label of "suggestion".

"Hypnosis" is a horribly vague word, but its basically all about learning how to talk to the different parts of the brain and engineering what you say as to get the different parts to respond the way you want. "Engineered placebo", perhaps.

What kind of answer are you looking for? I can't explain the whole lot in a short comment, but I'd consider writing a post on what researching hypnosis has taught me, if there's interest.

Comment author: Raw_Power 06 July 2011 11:35:15PM 11 points [-]

interested hand is raised

Comment author: Peterdjones 06 July 2011 09:57:55PM 2 points [-]

a) it has been suggested to people. by culture in general that there is such a thing as hypnosis, which works in such-and-such way.

b) This existing suggestion can be used to suggest to people that they become more suggestible than they are already.

In short;

c) it's suggestion all the way down.

Comment author: Pavitra 08 July 2011 06:50:12PM 2 points [-]

Suppose I cast a magic spell to make magic start working for everyone in the universe, including myself retroactively so that I can cast the spell.

I would not expect magic to start working.

Conclusion: there's something real happening in the vicinity of the referent of "suggestion".

Comment author: Peterdjones 08 July 2011 08:25:45PM 2 points [-]

I'm not saying suggestion is nothing. I am saying the level of suggestibility is never zero.

Comment author: MatthewBaker 06 July 2011 10:31:09PM 2 points [-]

Its hard to fake too, the reason it works so well is the people that wont be hypnotized are removed early in the process. The only way ive ever seen someone successfully mess with a good hypnotist is when my friend hypnotized himself first, so that he would be able to break the hypnotism in the middle of the hypnotists act with help from a separate trigger. Then you can really mess with the guy successfully making everyone suggestible.

Comment author: Raw_Power 06 July 2011 10:19:43PM 1 point [-]

This is way more hilarious than it has any right to be.