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If I could actually break the rules of reality, and I just used that power to teach people how reality normally works, I would regard that as being not just a dismally suboptimal use of those powers, but downright willfully perverse.
Creating works of fantastical fiction that teach people about the use of rationality is a very different matter, and it's certainly not clear how it counts as relaxing one's adherence to rationality. Arguably it might be a bad idea for someone like Eliezer, who acts as something of a representative for the SIAI, to be associated with something as low status as fanfiction (although I for one can't find it in me to complain,) but for Alicorn, or for you or me, I don't see what about it would be irrational. You know the problems with applying the straw Vulcan trope to real life.
If you want to stimulate some productive discussion on teaching rationality in counterintuitive or nontraditional ways, why not suggest some examples of what you actually mean? You could integrate some of the stuff from your comment above into the post itself, but I'd suggest also explaining why you think such an approach would be particularly useful, and what sort of ideas you think would be good for maximizing that usefulness.
... Do you want to be my chavruta?
That said, I think you misunderstand me: I meant breaking the rules of reality within the realm of a work of fiction and making the protagonists (or the audience if it's a videogame) figure the new rules out for themselves... Actually now that I think of it videogamers are very used to adapting themselves to entirely new sets of physics on a weekly basis... but no-one has ever made them stop and think about it for a while, AFAIK.
I'm not suggesting we be emotionally or creatively repressed, that has nothing to do with being rational. I just wonder how exactly one can allow themselves artistic license in a way that allows people to have fun learning stuff without having the fun bits detracting from the general message.
Err, am I missing something here? Haven't I done that in the very post you're responding to...? Or am I misunderstanding you?
Maybe. For studying what in particular?
I meant you should add them to the original post, not just the comments.
Decision theory? Information theory? I'm an engineer, which means most of the stuff I know is useless for AI design or programming.
Gotcha