TobyBartels comments on Follow-up on ESP study: "We don't publish replications" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JoshuaZ 12 July 2011 12:25:40AM *  7 points [-]

A paper without any citations is generally considered such a bad source that it's only one step up from wikipedia. You can cite it, if you must, but you better not base your research on it.

If this were true how would anyone ever get the first citation?

(Incidentally in my own field, there are a lot of papers that don't get cited. It isn't because the papers are wrong (although some very small fraction of them have that problem) but that they just aren't interesting. But math is very different from most other fields.)

Comment author: TobyBartels 19 July 2011 07:03:34PM 0 points [-]

If this were true how would anyone ever get the first citation?

I think that you can cite it if you really think that it's good (and perhaps this is what Zed meant by "if you must"), but you'd better be citing something more widely accepted too. Then if lots of people think that it's really good, it will join the canon of widely cited papers.

Also, people outside of the publish-or-perish framework (respected elders, hobbyists outside of the research track, grad students in some fields) can get the ball rolling.