Jayson_Virissimo comments on LW systemic bias: US centrism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 21 July 2011 06:30:12PM 2 points [-]

Correct, that is another instance of the same reasoning pattern with high inductive probability. I see no evidence of cognitive bias in either case.

Comment author: SilasBarta 21 July 2011 07:41:49PM 3 points [-]

My point is that the fact that the probabilistic inference is valid does not imply that you should e.g. use examples that assume the user is that way, which was the reason you were making that point to begin with. I can safely assume that an unknown user is male. Doesn't mean I should use male-experience specific examples for elucidation.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 26 July 2011 01:16:19AM *  1 point [-]

See here (minus the part about the robe). My response was about whether a certain presumption was biased, not whether it was an optimal social norm.

Comment author: MixedNuts 21 July 2011 06:55:14PM 5 points [-]

(Picture me saying this in dramatic tones, standing on a podium wearing robes and frequently howling "Fools!")

For a perfect Bayesian, it works. For humans, not so much. Just having a category exist makes us develop silly beliefs around it. If they're categories of people, we start loving our category and hating others - the ingroup/outgroup dichotomy. We treat ourselves as default and other, er, others, increasing the status differential. If a power structure already exists on top on that, forget it. It's really not innocent.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 21 July 2011 07:38:28PM 3 points [-]

It seems to me that whether or not something is good social practice is distinct from whether or not it involves cognitive bias. BTW, I like the robe; it is everything I imagined it would be.

Comment author: magfrump 24 July 2011 02:50:54PM 0 points [-]

Upvoted for the flavor text and the anvilicious necessity.