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Comment author: DanielLC 21 July 2011 07:11:39PM 0 points [-]

The special effects for the grandpa are weird.

I find it hard to believe anyone but an extreme fundamentalist would believe that an upload doesn't have a soul after talking to one. People would think that uploading is impossible because of the lack of a soul. Show them that uploading is possible, and they'll believe the guy has a soul. Split the upload a few times and they'll probably believe the soul goes back in time to fill all the bodies, or just fills them all at once, or something like that.

Of course, there will still probably be plenty against the idea of uploading. After all, what's the point of heaven if you never die?

Also, why can't he hug her? Can he not afford to rent an android body?

Anyway, it was a good video.

Comment author: pre 21 July 2011 07:37:23PM 1 point [-]

Thanks.

Didn't there used to be plenty of people who said blacks people don't have souls, for instance? The whole concept is so nebulous as to be practically meaningless.

One of the later scripts talks about him inventing that android-body type machine, or at least helping develop it.

Comment author: DanielLC 22 July 2011 02:34:57AM 0 points [-]

One of the later scripts talks about him inventing that android-body type machine, or at least helping develop it.

But they've already been invented.

Comment author: Peter_de_Blanc 24 July 2011 04:47:21AM 1 point [-]

There are robots that look like humans, but if you want an upload to experience it as a human body, you would want it to be structured like a human body on the inside too, e.g. by having the same set of muscles.

Comment author: DanielLC 24 July 2011 07:02:58PM 2 points [-]

If you want them to experience it as a human body, just add software that makes it feel like they're moving muscles that aren't really there. Also, if you can find the right part of the brain to mess with, make them incapable of noticing something's wrong with their body.

Besides, pneumatic motors are tiny. It's not that hard to add more. Granted, they'd have to carry around a compressed air tank or air compressor if they want to walk around a lot, but that's not going to be a problem if you just want to hug your grand-daughter.

Comment author: pre 22 July 2011 07:12:25AM 1 point [-]

Well, ish. Certainly no interface between uploaded consciousness and the (still very crude) motor-control and perception systems of such androids.

Comment author: cousin_it 21 July 2011 07:46:11PM *  0 points [-]

(silly comment retracted)