Kaj_Sotala comments on New Post version 2 (please read this ONLY if your last name beings with l–z) - Less Wrong

8 Post author: lukeprog 27 July 2011 09:57PM

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Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 28 July 2011 10:53:14AM 30 points [-]

I felt skeeved as well. I didn't mind the polyamory plugs, and in general I like autobiographical bits, as they bring more of a human element into posts.

What bothered me was that the discussion about romance felt very cold, somehow. Talking about "suboptimal" relationships, saying that you "scored" your first one-night stand, and such. It sounded like you weren't interested in other people as, well, people.

The interesting thing is that I don't really endorse these emotional reactions to your writing. In general, I'm completely fine with PUA stuff as long as it stays ethical, which I think your post did. Nor do I feel, on an intellectual level, that there's anything wrong with considering a relationship "suboptimal" - many relationships are that. Yet the post managed to push buttons on an emotional level anyway. For that reason, I'd very strongly prefer to not see this post on the front page, as I suspect it would give a lot of people an unreasonably negative image of this community.

Comment author: Airedale 28 July 2011 07:18:41PM 8 points [-]

I agree with you on the skeeviness of the terminology of "scoring" a one night stand; interestingly, version 1 of the post instead states that Luke "had [his] first one-night stand." Although I haven't compared the versions carefully, it therefore seems like version 1 may make more of an attempt to avoid that sort of language.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 28 July 2011 06:01:54PM 5 points [-]

One thing that bothered me on that level was the "awesome girlfriend"-- does lukeprog like her, or does she just meet a set of specs?

Comment author: Davorak 29 July 2011 05:32:52AM 3 points [-]

I think I understand where you are coming from approximately, but for clarity what specifically would liking her entail above and beyond a set of specs?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 29 July 2011 05:59:13AM *  4 points [-]

Some sense that there's something distinct about her which would mean that lukeprog would care if she were replaced by a different woman who was as good-looking and as interested in sex with him.

Comment author: Davorak 02 August 2011 11:16:04PM 0 points [-]

Some sense that there's something distinct about her which would mean that lukeprog

This something distinct, would a more detailed set of specs qualify? In your mind, is it that lukeprog seems to have few and shallow specs that bothers you? Or is your "distinct" distinct from specs entirely?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 28 July 2011 03:05:12PM 5 points [-]

Upvoted for distinguishing between emotional reactions and endorsed ones.