tetsuo55 comments on New Post version 2 (please read this ONLY if your last name beings with l–z) - Less Wrong

8 Post author: lukeprog 27 July 2011 09:57PM

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Comment author: tetsuo55 28 July 2011 02:13:04PM *  2 points [-]

there are some instinctive functions, but those are mostly limited to basic survival. The examples of breathing and eating are 2 things that most adults are doing incorrectly. To learn proper breathing you will have to apply a gimmick until your body and minds learns how to breath properly and you dont give it anymore consious thought. When a baby is born the doctor will use a gimmick to make the baby breath for the first time.

And yes, i learned all the things you mentioned by using gimmicks, in fact the first thing i learned in school is guessing the teachers password.

Maybe we should taboo the word gimmick. My definiton of gimmick: "A conscious change in behavior" Something stops being a gimmick when: "The behavior occurs unconsciously"

At first you suck at math and have to study hard, then after some practice calculation results come naturally.

Comment author: RobertLumley 28 July 2011 02:21:04PM 0 points [-]

Ah yes. Well we mean very different things when we use the word gimmick. My definition would be more along the lines of "a concealed, usually devious aspect or feature of something, as a plan or deal", which is one of Dictionary.com's definitions.

Comment author: tetsuo55 28 July 2011 02:27:12PM 2 points [-]

So intention is probably the main problem. If your ethics do not condone the intention behind the "trick" you consider it a "gimmick" and hence a bad thing.

I think lukeprog has not been clear enough on his intentions which causes newer users to read it as an evil gimmick promoting article.

Comment author: RobertLumley 28 July 2011 06:24:06PM 2 points [-]

Well, not the intention. I'm a utilitarian. But I think the consequences are worse for my definition - especially when you consider the utility function of the person being lied to.