JGWeissman comments on The $125,000 Summer Singularity Challenge - Less Wrong

20 Post author: Kaj_Sotala 29 July 2011 09:02PM

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Comment author: JGWeissman 30 July 2011 07:16:01PM 5 points [-]

Disagree about the dark arts, but upvoted for donating anyways.

Comment author: MichaelAnissimov 24 August 2011 10:40:21PM 2 points [-]

I fully and completely embrace "dark arts", is there a problem with that?

Comment author: lessdazed 24 August 2011 10:58:39PM 5 points [-]

Your thoughts on the matter are unclear. They could be any of the following, or something else:

"I see no reason to classify broad forms of social interaction as always bad, though they may be effective without persuading people as they would wish to be persuaded, that's just another negative to take into account when considering the total consequences of a speech act."

"I see no reason to classify broad forms of social interaction as always bad, though they may be effective without persuading people as they would wish to be, I don't care directly about people's desires to believe ideas only for certain reasons, such as persuasion and not emotional manipulation."

"I see some forms of changing minds as inherently good and others as inherently bad, and though I value being good rather than bad, it's not a high enough priority to be expressed in my actions very often."

"I see some forms of changing minds as inherently good and others as inherently bad, but I prefer to do what I feel like rather than what's good."

"Me want cookie! Me eat cookie! Om nom nom nom!"

Comment author: MichaelAnissimov 25 August 2011 12:02:19AM 2 points [-]

Yeah, I can't write out fully what I mean, I just think the term has come to be too broad, to the point where it nixes obviously pragmatic lines of thought and action. More like:

"I see no reason to classify broad forms of social interaction as always bad, though they may be effective without persuading people as they would wish to be persuaded, upon first reflection, but they'll appreciate it later."