jsalvatier comments on Teaching Introspection - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pjeby 01 August 2011 07:43:44PM 4 points [-]

And the easiest way to learn perfect front crawl isn’t to do it over and over again with tiny changes, but to practice exaggerated and simplified “drills” that teach particular fragments of muscle memory.

This reminds me of something that happened in my early years of teaching mind hacking: I noticed that some people were way better at applying the techniques than others, and then began discovering that it was a function of lower-level introspection skills I didn't yet know how to teach. (For example, some people were just better at "shutting up and listening" or not adding interpretations onto their experiences.)

Faced with a given stroke problem, I can look over a list of about eight different front crawl drills to find the one best suited for fixing it. To place some objective measure on the improvements, I can time my swimmers or count their strokes per length.

I certainly wish I had technology that specific: what I have now are mostly mnemonics, rules of thumb, and individual coaching feedback. Objective measures are particularly hard to come by, though I suppose I have a couple of them.

Comment author: jsalvatier 01 August 2011 07:56:58PM 3 points [-]

care to list them ?

Comment author: pjeby 02 August 2011 04:08:41PM 1 point [-]

The objective measures? Primarily, the change in response to a cue thought, and the experience of surprise. A person who isn't surprised at least sometimes by their introspection isn't obtaining any new information, and a person whose behavior doesn't change in ways that surprise them hasn't changed their spontaneous behavior. A lack of change in autonomous responses to a stimulus is likewise an indication that no actual self-modification has occurred.