lessdazed comments on Raise the Age Demographic - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lessdazed 06 August 2011 10:48:43PM 2 points [-]

My concern is that religion and rationality are not interchangeable

I agree, we should no more expect them to be interchangeable than we should expect a random building built for a random purpose to be interchangeable with a church optimized for a religion.

Exactly how far are we from interchangeability, though? A gas station isn't at all like an office building, as random buildings go, but it'd be easier to remodel each to the other purpose than to remodel a termite mound or bird's nest to accommodate human use.

How much can we learn from the models of religious organizations? It is hard to even know how much people are disagreeing about the answer to this question, because all answers resemble "some, but not too much"; I can't sensibly give a measure such as "We should learn 74kg worth from them, and discard the rest."

Comment author: TheOtherDave 07 August 2011 12:54:08AM 1 point [-]

A gas station is more like an office building than it is like a bird's nest... sure. That said, if I want a gas station, I might still be better off starting with a plot of land that contains only a bird's nest (which I can destroy or relocate before I start building my gas station) than with one that contains an office building.

That said, I'm all in favor of learning stuff about organizations from studying organizations, including (but not limited to) religious ones. But there's a big difference between "learn stuff from studying X that I might use in constructing Y" and "model Y on X".