Morendil comments on Rationality Lessons Learned from Irrational Adventures in Romance - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Logos01 04 October 2011 11:09:50AM 15 points [-]

Instead of saying "Women want..." and "Women mean..." would it not be more accurate to say "Some women want.../mean...,

I am troubled by the vehemence by which people seem to reject the notion of using the language of the second-order simulacrum -- especially in communities that should be intimately aware of the concept that the map is not the territory.

Some forms of accuracy are simply wastes of space; how many digits of Pi does rational!Harry know, as compared to rational!Hermione?

Comment author: Morendil 04 October 2011 12:49:12PM 1 point [-]

second-order simulacrum

What's that?

Comment author: Logos01 04 October 2011 05:17:39PM 4 points [-]

A second-order simulacrum is a symbol that doesn't actually represent anything. The concept of 'the number' is a representative symbol (as in, an abstraction) of all numbers -- but isn't actually itself a number; it is a second-order simulacrum.

The proverbial average household with its whitewashed picket fence and that poor .5 of a kid (It's a damned shame what happened to poor .5!Timmy. People should be more careful around asphalt crackign equipment and rutting mules.) is a second-order simulacrum used as a 'conceptual placeholder' to make discussing households far simpler.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Second-order_simulacra