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Comment author: Zed 14 August 2011 01:19:11PM *  4 points [-]

A complex proposition P (long MML) can have a complex negation (also with long MML) and you'd have no reason to assume you'd be presented with P instead of non-P. The positive proposition P is unlikely if its MML is long, but the proposition non-P, despite its long MML is then likely to be true.

If you have no reason to believe you're more likely to be presented with P than with non-P, then my understanding is that they cancel each other out.

But now I'm not so sure anymore.

edit: I'm now pretty sure again my initial understanding was correct and that the counterarguments are merely cached thoughts.

Comment author: Patrick 14 August 2011 03:34:24PM 0 points [-]

The number of possible probability distributions is far larger than the two induced by the belief that P, and the belief that ~P.

Comment author: Zed 14 August 2011 04:32:43PM 0 points [-]

If at this point you don't agree that the probability is 0.5 I'd like to hear your number.

Comment author: Patrick 14 August 2011 05:34:55PM 3 points [-]

P(A) = 2^-K(A).

As for ~A, see: http://lesswrong.com/lw/vs/selling_nonapples/ (The negation of a complex proposition is much vaguer, and hence more probable (and useless))