lessdazed comments on The Goal of the Bayesian Conspiracy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lessdazed 16 August 2011 03:22:04AM *  0 points [-]

And just because we couldn't do it perfectly doesn't mean we're not better than the alternatives.

I wonder how well a group whose members didn't study how to think and instead devoted themselves to not letting emotions interfere with their decisions would do. All its work would be advances, I think - there would be no analog to the "valley of rationality" in which people lost touch with their intuitions and made poor decisions.

Comment author: Strange7 16 August 2011 03:36:46AM 4 points [-]

I dispute your claim.

In fact, I would assert the exact opposite: that attempting to remove emotions from decisionmaking is what causes the "valley of rationality." Furthermore, I suspect it is a necessary transitional phase, comparable in it's horrific necessity to the process of re-breaking a mangled shinbone so that it can heal straight.

Comment author: lessdazed 16 August 2011 03:49:15AM *  0 points [-]

All its work would be advances, I think

I dispute your claim.

I'm well disposed towards your viewpoint on that.

attempting to remove emotions from decisionmaking is what causes the "valley of rationality."

I disagree with the implication of this. I think the main causes are misusing tools like Bayesian updating and considering what a rationalist would do, and trying to do that.

Insofar as poorly calibrated emotions are part of the problem, one must subtract the problems that would have been caused by them under non-aspiring rationalist conditions from those under aspiring-rationalist conditions to calculate what the aspiring rationalism is responsible for. I don't think this usually leaves much left over, positive or negative.