lessdazed comments on Consequentialism Need Not Be Nearsighted - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lessdazed 31 August 2011 05:56:43PM 2 points [-]

By carefully setting the free parameters, you can turn one into the other.

How would this be different than inserting epicycles to express geocentrism as heliocentrism? From consequentialist and deontological perspectives, I don't think this is an insight that dissolves the question.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 01 September 2011 04:08:18AM 4 points [-]

The difference is that this is an 'ought' problem rather than an 'is' problem and we have no reason to believe our values should be simple.

Comment author: Johnicholas 31 August 2011 06:21:08PM *  -1 points [-]

There are various distinguishing points between geocentrism and heliocentrism - one is that heliocentrism had fewer free parameters. More elaborately: Certain parameters of the epicycles had to be delicately balanced, and heliocentrism "predicted" that those parameters would be turn out to be balanced. This sense of prediction has nothing to do with previous-in-time, and everything to do with opportunities for falsification; if ever those parameters drifted from perfect balance, heliocentrism would be falsified. Heliocentrism was preferable (even though it was slightly less accurate at first) because it exposed itself to a more stringent test.

Overall, what I'm saying is that those two theories are asymmetric.