wedrifid comments on Consequentialism Need Not Be Nearsighted - Less Wrong

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Comment author: markrkrebs 27 September 2011 02:21:47AM -1 points [-]

Well, they could EVOLVE that reticence for perfectly good reasons. I'll dare in this context to suggest that evolution IS intelligence. Have you heard of thought as an act of simulating action and forecasting the results? Is that not what evolution does, only the simulations are real, and the best chess moves "selected?"

a species thereby exhibits meta-intelligence, no?

Comment author: wedrifid 27 September 2011 02:51:59AM *  5 points [-]

I'll dare in this context to suggest that evolution IS intelligence.

That's a waste of a word. Call evolution an optimisation process (which is only a slight stretch). Then you can use the word 'intelligence' to refer to what you refer to as 'meta-intelligence'. Keeping distinct concepts distinct while also acknowledging the relationship tends to be the best policy.

Have you heard of thought as an act of simulating action and forecasting the results? Is that not what evolution does,

No, it really isn't and using that model encourages bad predictions about the evolution of a species. Species don't 'forecast and select'. Species evolve to extinction with as much enthusiasm as they evolve to new heights of adaptive performance. Saying that evolution 'learns from the past' would be slightly less of an error but I wouldn't even go there.

Comment author: markrkrebs 27 September 2011 10:12:54AM 0 points [-]

Hmm, I agree, except for the last part. Blindly trying (what genetic mixing & mutating does) it like poorly guided forecasting. (Good simulation engineers or chess players somehow "see" the space of likely moves, bad ones just try a lot) and the species doesn't select, but the environment does.

I need to go read "evolve to extinction."

Thanks