REQ: Latin translation for HPMOR

Eliezer Yudkowsky

If anyone can do non-wrong Latin, I could use a translation of the following for HPMOR. The original is supposed to be circa 1200.

No rescuer hath the rescuer.
No Lord hath the champion,
no mother and no father,
only nothingness above.

If anyone can do non-wrong Latin, I could use a translation of the following for HPMOR. The original is supposed to be circa 1200.

No rescuer hath the rescuer.
No Lord hath the champion,
no mother and no father,
only nothingness above.

quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur?

Nitpick: "quidquid" meaning whatever is one word not two words. While ancient Latin didn't have spacing between words, we can see that in this sort of context it was intended as a single word because Latin allows a lot of word order rearrangement and "quidquid" didn't get split up (as I understand that). "Quid" means "what" but "quidquid" means "whatever" or "anything".

And there's a disclaimer necessary here that I haven't taken Latin in a decade so I could be wrong but I don't think I am.

He's right, as far as I studied.

3Cerberus15y

I think I agree that quidquid cannot normally be split up; but is that reason enough to say it must be one word? The particle -que cannot normally be split up either, but it is split up occasionally in poetry, if I remember correctly. I think what constitutes a word and what doesn't is ultimately an unreclaimable quagmire, though in this case I'd certainly prefer quidquid over quid quid too.

3Emile15y

Interesting, I guess the French "quoique" and "quelque" ("whatever" and "some") are descendents of this formulation ("quoi", "que", and "quel" are also words of their own).

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