drethelin comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 8 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: drethelin 25 August 2011 03:29:34PM 21 points [-]

I can agree with your sentiment but there's plenty of evidence from canon that bullying is seriously endemic to Hogwarts, not to mention the Morcanon point of view where slytherins have found themselves gaining status predominantly from racism against and bullying of mudbloods/hufflepuffs. The entire hogwarts system could almost seem to be DESIGNED to generate ingroup/outgroup hostility in huge amounts to layer on top of the basic cliquishness and age-based splitting of regular school.

also, it's strongly implied in this chapter that the enemies hermione is making now are NOT fighting her because they think of themselves as bullies, but because they view themselves as proud slytherins/griffyndors, and see hermione insulting their entire houses.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 August 2011 10:11:39AM *  5 points [-]

from racism against and bullying of mudbloods/hufflepuffs

I don't really think racism is the right word here. Well at least no more than say classism (in general reading HP its very hard to miss the obvious parallels between the divide among muggles and wizards and the class divisions there).

Comment author: drethelin 27 August 2011 05:33:24PM 3 points [-]

You can have both! Malfoys hate slytherins because they're lower class, but they never claim they aren't even people, because they're pureblood. But they actually want all mudbloods to die, because they're of a mixed breed with the lesser race.

Comment author: [deleted] 27 August 2011 05:37:32PM *  1 point [-]

I think its more like hating people with a congenital defect or people of poor breeding who aren't from noble or prestigious families.