ahartell comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 8 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ahartell 31 August 2011 02:10:00PM 6 points [-]

Does it say anywhere in HP:MoR that Tonks is a metamorphmagus? I can't remember if it does and there were some reviewers (presumably who didn't read the original series) confused by her ability to imitate Susan without polyjuice poison.

Comment author: Factitious 01 September 2011 05:18:25PM 2 points [-]

She's not definitely called out as Tonks, and I'm not sure the years match up, but from chapter 29:

"Did you know there's a fourth-year girl in Hufflepuff who's a Metamorphmagus?" said Hermione as they headed toward the Great Hall. "She makes her hair really red, like stopsign red not Weasley red, and when she spilled hot tea on herself she turned into a black-haired boy until she got it under control again."

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 05 September 2011 07:05:41AM 8 points [-]

I've just decided to eliminate the "fourth-year" qualifier. I'd previously meant Ranma to be separate from Tonks, but on reflection it's kind of funnier if she is Ranma. More importantly, I want Metamorphmagi to be rarer and more unexpected than if two different ones are attending Hogwarts at the same time.

Comment author: Zack_M_Davis 01 September 2011 05:26:10PM 6 points [-]

I think that's supposed to be a Ranma 1/2 reference.

Comment author: smk 07 September 2011 05:31:31PM 3 points [-]

Huh, I missed that. I thought it was EY's way of dropping in a cultural tidbit about the wizarding world, where a transsexual girl is naturally thought of by everyone as a girl, though they all know that she makes her body the way it is by being a metamorphmagus, and she reverts to her non-metamorphed form when she's startled. Then I started wondering what non-metamorphmagus trans people would do. Maybe there are permanent sex-change potions. Or perhaps temporary ones that you have to keep taking, like polyjuice but without copying anyone. Or maybe all trans wizards are metamorphmagi, but I doubt it.

Comment author: ahartell 01 September 2011 05:26:42PM *  3 points [-]

My understanding is that Tonks is a seventh year.

"Sign up for the Auror preparation program in your sixth year," said Susan. "It's the next best thing. Oh, and if a famous Auror offers to oversee your summer internship, just ignore anyone who warns you that he's a terrible influence or that you're almost certainly going to die."

Edit: And what Zack said.

Comment author: Sheaman3773 04 September 2011 05:37:26PM 3 points [-]

Definitely a seventh year:

"Miss Granger is selling them for two Sickles, and tells me that she has so far sold fifty of them. I believe that Nymphadora Tonks, in seventh-year Hufflepuff, is enchanting them for her."

Ch 70, referring to the SPHEW buttons.

Comment author: MinibearRex 01 September 2011 04:02:01AM 0 points [-]

I just did a quick search. She's been mentioned once before, but there was no mention of her ability.