Armok_GoB comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 8 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Armok_GoB 06 September 2011 09:51:32PM 0 points [-]

The comment wasn't really intended for anyone other than Eliezer, and I forgot to correct for the halo making him out to me basically omniscience and capable of reading my mind.

Comment author: lessdazed 06 September 2011 10:00:50PM 1 point [-]

he could still accept superhappies or papperclipers caring about it say.

I think he actually might intrinsically value their desires too. One can theoretically make the transition from "human" to "paperclip maximizer" one atom at a time; differences in kind are the best way for corrupted/insufficiently powerful software to think about it, but here we're talking about logical impurity, which would contaminate with sub-homeopathic doses.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 06 September 2011 10:27:51PM 0 points [-]

Well, in that case it's new information and we can conclude that either his utility function DOES include things in those universes that he claim can not exist, or it's not physically possible to construct an agent that would care about them.

Comment author: lessdazed 06 September 2011 10:42:46PM 1 point [-]

it's not physically possible to construct an agent that would care about them.

I would say "care dependent upon them". An agent could care dependent upon them without caring about them, the converse is not true.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 06 September 2011 10:49:34PM 0 points [-]

That's even wider, although probably by a very small amount, thanks!