TobyBartels comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 8 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lessdazed 06 September 2011 09:11:41PM 0 points [-]

or simply that your utility function does not speak about things that require them, or what exactly?

This isn't a much simple/weaker claim than other possible meanings for "I just have trouble believing".

Their underlying other utility functions would be contagious. For example, if my utility function requires them, then someone of whom it is accurate to say that "His utility function does not speak about things that require them" would't be able to include in his utility function my desires, or desires of those who cared about my desires, or desires of people who cared about the desires of people who cared about my desires, and so forth.

Eliezer cares about some people, some people care about me, and the rest is six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

The most extreme similar interpretation would have to be a statement about human utility functions in general.

Comment author: TobyBartels 07 September 2011 08:00:38PM *  0 points [-]

I don't know what it means to care about the existence of the smallest uncountable ordinal (as opposed to caring that this existence can be proved in ZF, or cannot be refuted in second-order arithmetic, or something like that). Can we taboo "smallest uncountable ordinal" here?