But by assumption, his society is irrational
The society given in the example is wrong. But that's not exactly the same as being irrational, I do think however that its probable to say that person A is more rational than the society as a whole. This may be a high or low standard mind you.
Now again I dislike the highly charged example, since they narrow down the scope of thinking, but I suppose you do make a vivid case.
is rationality are themselves irrational.
But how can they know this? If they know this why don't they change? All else being equal an individual being mistaken seem more likley than the societal consensus being wrong. I don't think you realize on just how much human societies agree. Also just because society is wrong, dosen't mean the individual is right.
Are you better off associated with the fake Nazi or the sincere Nazi?
The answer for the typical person living in Nazi Germany would be? Mind you a Nazi Germany where we don't have the benefit of hindsight that the regime will be short lived.
are themselves irrational.
But how can they know this? If they know this why don't they change?
They don't change because their beliefs are politically convenient. Because their beliefs justify the elite exercising power over the less elite. Because their beliefs justify behavior by the elite that serves the interests of members of the elite but destroys society.
Searching for an example of suicidal delusions that is not unduly relevant to either today's politics or yesterdays demons - unfortunately, such examples are necessarily obscure.
The ninete...
This is thread where I'm trying to figure out a few things about signalling on LessWrong and need some information, so please immediately after reading about the two individuals please answer the poll. The two individuals:
A. Sees that an interpretation of reality shared by others is not correct, but tries to pretend otherwise for personal gain and/or safety.
B. Fails to see that an interpretation of reality is shared by others is flawed. He is therefore perfectly honest in sharing the interpretation of reality with others. The reward regime for outward behaviour is the same as with A.
To add a trivial inconvenience that matches the inconvenience of answering the poll before reading on, comments on what I think the two individuals signal,what the trade off is and what I speculate the results might be here versus the general population, is behind this link.