RobertLumley comments on Prisoner's Dilemma as a Game Theory Laboratory - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RobertLumley 25 August 2011 05:38:43PM *  11 points [-]

I wish I had been around when the initial Diplomacy game was organized. Diplomacy is a hobby of mine. And that project would have been much better organized (and recorded) on the website where I play, WebDiplomacy.

Furthermore, if you wanted a more easily analyzed metric, you can play "gunboat" diplomacy, where you're not allowed to communicate between countries, and the only communication are by moves - you can use support holds to indicate a request for an alliance, etc. I particularly enjoy this form of diplomacy, as it's far more like seven player chess.

A lot of the people on WebDiplomacy are math/science people; the two communities (if LessWrong could get over the HUGE number of trolls on WebDip) would actually get along really well. There are a number of metrics that they collect, but below is a link to a project that one person did, wherein, among other things, he analyzed the most statistically successful openings for the various countries. Also, below that, I have a link to my personal statistics, if you'd find those interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/DiplomacyReport

http://tinyurl.com/SmileysDipStats

I figure I've promoted LessWrong on WebDip enough, I ought to promote WebDip here too... :-)

Comment author: Randaly 25 August 2011 06:39:03PM 2 points [-]

There was another game, mostly including the NY members, which took place on WebDiplomacy. The game is here; Zvi Mowshowitz won.

Comment author: RobertLumley 25 August 2011 07:01:26PM *  4 points [-]

Errrrr.... Points Per Supply Center...

Certainly excusable for LWers, but any serious play on WebDip is WTA. :-P

This is a topic highly debated on WebDiplomacy, (I could go on) but Babak said it best when he said (paraphrasing) "Playing for a strong second in PPSC in diplomacy is like shooting it in your own goal in soccer just because you want to score a goal."

Comment author: prase 25 August 2011 06:32:04PM *  1 point [-]

And that project would have been much better organized (and recorded) on the website where I play, WebDiplomacy.

Perhaps it would, but Yvain's moderation and reports after each turn gave it a unique flavour which standard WebDip games lack. Anyway, it may be easy to organise another game for LWers on WebDip.

Comment author: RobertLumley 25 August 2011 06:35:55PM 1 point [-]

I'd love to play, if there's interest.

Comment author: Vaniver 25 August 2011 07:46:03PM *  1 point [-]

There will definitely be tons of interest. Since I claimed I was willing to set up another game after winning one of the LW games, I probably ought to go ahead and make this happen.

Comment author: RobertLumley 25 August 2011 08:06:50PM *  1 point [-]

I'm happy to help if you want. I was considering just making a post myself, but I wanted to gauge whether or not there was any interest at all.

And here I was thinking I might take a bit of a break from diplomacy after my games finish up so I can focus more on my school work...

Comment author: Vaniver 25 August 2011 09:13:29PM 0 points [-]

Thanks for the offer! I'm planning on mostly doing the administrative stuff of sorting people, as I've never used WebDiplomacy before. (I imagine it's pretty easy to use, but experience generally helps). The previous post has been updated with a link, if you'd like to sign up.