Alicorn comments on Polyhacking - Less Wrong

75 Post author: Alicorn 28 August 2011 08:35AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 28 August 2011 06:44:41AM 7 points [-]

I will be better able to answer the question if you unpack the words "special" and "replaceable".

I'll try. Not sure I'll succeed, though, as it screams obviousness to my brain, so it's hard to understand the outside perspective wherein it is not clear.

A partner stating he or she would rather not be with me than be with just me indicates that I am not particularly significant. Not special to him or her. Replaceable, pretty easily, considering how doable it is to not live like a swinger (the other side of poly, emotional & intellectual connection = good friends, no line-crossing necessary).

I enjoy feeling like I am more important to my partner than anyone/anything else. I am under the impression that this is normal in humans, and that it feeds the default human tendency toward monogamy. Do you not enjoy this / prefer this to being one-of-many?

From a different angle: If MBlume (or whoever your primary is at a given time) would be with you either way, monogamous or poly, which would you choose, given all the non-drama/non-jealousy & other apparent 'awesomeness' of your poly adjustment? Would you prefer to stay this way, or would you prefer an MBlume who was happy to give up all other men/women to be with just you forever?

Comment author: Alicorn 28 August 2011 07:05:12AM 16 points [-]

I just looked over my shoulder and asked. Turns out your question is a practical one - MBlume says he would go monogamous for me if I wanted. If he'd said this before I hacked poly, I wouldn't have hacked poly. (He wouldn't have said it then - he needed the information of how our relationship has gone for the past month.) Given that I'm now poly, and that we both have other partners/prospects who we'd be somewhat distressed to give up, I'm not planning to reverse the hack. It's a matter of hassle and loss aversion mostly. But I do find it meaningful that he would monogamize himself if I were not sufficiently superpowered to have rendered it unnecessary.

Comment author: Vaniver 28 August 2011 07:13:49AM 7 points [-]

But I do find it meaningful that he would monogamize himself if I were not sufficiently superpowered to have rendered it unnecessary.

Alternatively, he is able to offer this primarily because he knows it is unnecessary / your polyhack is an inseparable part of your value as a partner.

Comment author: [deleted] 29 August 2011 04:37:21PM 2 points [-]

I do find it meaningful that he would monogamize himself if I were not sufficiently superpowered to have rendered it unnecessary.

Agreed. Yay. I am happier for you both now. (Is it strange that I have concerns about people I don't know very well, because I consider them part of my extended tribe somehow? I need to ask more people if they feel this way.)

Comment author: Kingreaper 29 August 2011 04:40:06PM 2 points [-]

I certainly find the same on other forums and communities. I am not sufficiently part of the lesswrong community to feel a tribe-connection, but I would feel such concern for a person who went to my local RPG club (even if I'd never met them) or who attended my favourite LARP (as long as I had talked to them at least once or twice)

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 28 August 2011 08:47:30AM 6 points [-]

If he'd said this before I hacked poly, I wouldn't have hacked poly... Given that I'm now poly, and that we both have other partners/prospects who we'd be somewhat distressed to give up, I'm not planning to reverse the hack.

Sounds like a pretty definitive answer to the "You just went poly for the guy!" objection.

Comment author: wedrifid 28 August 2011 09:48:25AM 8 points [-]

Sounds like a pretty definitive answer to the "You just went poly for the guy!" objection.

It does. Even though it doesn't refute the "You just went poly for the guy!" assertion at all. It could well fit with "I just went with poly for the guy and it is awesome! You should try it!"

Comment author: Alicorn 28 August 2011 05:24:40PM 26 points [-]

...I did just go poly for the guy. I just think that's okay.

Comment author: ciphergoth 30 August 2011 09:13:55AM 5 points [-]

People move city to be with people; is this necessarily any different? Especially when you know lots of people living in that city going "move here, we love it here!"

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 28 August 2011 08:35:30PM 4 points [-]

I find this oddly cheerful. Go for it, then!