Critical I can agree to. "Key" is a more foundational term than "critical" in my 'gut response'.
I can dig.
If you had a sufficiently accurate predicting robot, to the Bayesian, it would be 'right' in one million out of one million coin flips by a robotic arm. To the frequentist, on the other hand, that sort of accuracy is impossible.
My initial response was, "No way Bayesians really believe that." My secondary response was, "Well, if 'sufficiently accurate' means knowing the arrangement of things down to quarks, the initial position, initial angle, force applied, etc... then, sure, you'd know what the flip was going to be."
If you meant the second thing, then I guess we disagree. If you meant something else, you'll probably have to clarify things. Either way, what you mean by "sufficiently accurate" might need some explaining.
Thanks for the dialog.
My initial response was, "No way Bayesians really believe that."
When I was first introduced to the concept of Bayesian statistics, I had rather lengthy conversations on just this very example.
Either way, what you mean by "sufficiently accurate" might need some explaining.
"Sufficiently accurate" means "sufficiently accurate", in this case. sufficient: being as much as needed; accurate. Synthesize the two and you have "being as without error and precise as needed". Can't get more clear than that, I fe...
I'm about 2/3 through an apologetics book that was recommended to me, Menssen and Sullivan's, The Agnostic Inquirer, and was quite surprised to run into a discussion of Bayes theorem and wanted some input from the LW community. The book is quite philosophical and I admit that I am probably not following all of it. I find heady philosophy to be one of these areas where something doesn't seem quite right (as in the conclusion that someone pushes), but I can't always identify what.
In any case, the primary point of the book is to attempt to replace the traditional apologetics method with a new one. The status quo has been to appeal to "natural theology," non-theological areas of discussion which attempt to bring one to the conclusion that some kind of theistic being exists, and from there establish that Christianity is the true formulation of what, exactly, this theistic being is/wants/does, etc by examining revealed theistic truths (aka the Bible). Menssen and Sullivan attempt to suggest that revelation need not be put off so long.
I don't want to get too into it, but think this helps set the stage. Their argument is as follows:
Issues Menssen and Sullivan have with Bayes applicability to this arena:
Then they begin trying to choose the best method for evaluating revelatory content. This is where Bayes comes in. The pages are almost all available via Google books HERE in Section 4.2.1, beginning on page 173. They suggest the following limitations: