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Comment author: sam0345 02 September 2011 06:24:45PM *  7 points [-]

That this is evidence the American government spent more effort opposing Apartheid than the Vietcong is something else entirely - conspiracy theory.

The US sought to overthrow its right wing enemies, such as Rhodesia and so forth, replacing their regimes with utterly different regimes, but generally sought to maintain its left wing enemies in power, while placing pressure on them to moderate their ways, go along with the consensus, and stop trying to disturb the status quo, like a squabble within a marriage, rather than a divorce.

Even on those rare, infrequent, and dramatic occasions when the US did want to overthrow its left wing enemies, as for example the Taliban, the State Department clearly did not want to overthrow them, eventually got its way and installed regimes almost indistinguishable from the originals. The current Afghan regime is just the Taliban light, far closer to the Taliban in its ethnicity and its state imposed theology than to the Northern Alliance.

In contrast, Rhodesia is utterly destroyed.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 03 September 2011 01:17:56PM 7 points [-]

So... enemies that enjoyed the support of the USSR or China largely survived, at least until the USSR's dissolution itself. While enemies of America that were also enemies of the USSR and China, were largely defeated.

Basically all you're saying is that few countries could stand without support from some superpower.

This isn't saying much that's suprising. But by talking as if the difference is between right-wing enemies and left-wing enemies, instead of enemies that didn't have superpower backing, and enemies that did have superpower backing, you make it look like a bigger conspiracy than it actually is.