Vladimir_Nesov comments on The Cognitive Science of Rationality - Less Wrong

88 Post author: lukeprog 12 September 2011 08:48PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 11 September 2011 02:59:38PM 2 points [-]

the odds that he had had the disease even given the positive test were a million to one

Should be "one to a million".

Comment author: mwengler 23 September 2011 02:13:01PM 0 points [-]

Biased response: as a native American English speaker I can assure you that "a million to one" is idiomatically correct.

I suspect that the more complete non-idiomatic version would be "a million to one against" and that the "against" is implicit because the idiom is highly established as expressing a very low probability.

Comment author: WhetherMan 15 September 2011 01:11:47PM 1 point [-]

I think "one IN a million" is the more common usage in American English.

Comment author: [deleted] 19 September 2011 05:47:04PM 1 point [-]

Technically, "one in a million" and "one to a million" differ. The latter is 1/1000001000000 smaller.

Comment author: ciphergoth 11 September 2011 06:28:28PM 2 points [-]

Common usage puts the other one first: "The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one"

Comment author: macronencer 14 January 2012 08:59:29AM 0 points [-]

Perhaps what people have in mind when they say that are betting odds. If you bet money on an unlikely event then the odds are quoted with the high number (your reward if the event occurs) first, which seems sensible from an advertising perspective.

Comment author: komponisto 11 September 2011 06:39:13PM *  3 points [-]

This is an unfortunate shortening of "a million to one against", which would be correct.

Comment author: MixedNuts 14 January 2012 10:47:33AM 1 point [-]

I thought that "a million to one" always meant "a million to one against", and you had to specify "a million to one on" when necessary.

Comment author: ciphergoth 11 September 2011 06:52:17PM 0 points [-]

My survey of one agrees with you - I would definitely have thought of this the other way around though.

Comment author: lukeprog 11 September 2011 03:01:51PM 0 points [-]

Thanks!

Comment author: Gary_Drescher 11 September 2011 08:34:25PM 14 points [-]

If John's physician prescribed a burdensome treatment because of a test whose false-positive rate is 99.9999%, John needs a lawyer rather than a statistician. :)

Comment author: lukeprog 11 September 2011 10:17:15PM 0 points [-]

True, that! :)