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Comment author: gwern 03 September 2011 01:02:54AM *  8 points [-]

Hm. We are principally interested here, practicality-wise, in akrasia and productivity. I don't know of any particular area of the akrasia literature that hasn't been discussed thoroughly here. Productivity-wise, software tools outside psychological training like dual n-back and spaced repetition tools like Mnemosyne/Anki already have their coverage. Nootropics are a common interest, but the major ones seem covered either by Wikipedia or my own stuff.

Maybe there's an area of psychology missing? For example, I've wondered how well-researched the Big Five personality factors are, and in particular, what the research on Conscientiousness says. I've collected a number of citations on it, but this has always been half-hearted. Which is too bad, because Conscientiousness seems like a major factor that LWers lack, and is pretty closely related to akrasia. Lukeprog claimed there was research into how to improve it in one of the reviews he cited, but I couldn't refind it.

Comment author: jsalvatier 03 September 2011 02:49:53PM 1 point [-]

I think perhaps the problem is that we aren't aware of all the little subfields that are useful and interesting. For example, I know of people working on posts that cover the literature on 'brainstorming' and 'learning how to solve physics problems'. Both of these sound really interesting and quite useful, but I don't want to make a prize about these since people are already working on them.

Conscientiousness sounds like it might be a good topic.

Comment author: gwern 04 September 2011 05:41:40PM 2 points [-]

Conscientiousness sounds like it might be a good topic.

A new citation I've worked in, the Terman study (only very intelligent children were used) discussed in http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2011/04/earnings-effects-of-personality.html - eyeballing it, going from 10th to 90th in Conscientiousness was worth $800,000 over a lifetime. More than a similar jump in IQ.

Comment author: jsalvatier 04 September 2011 05:58:41PM 0 points [-]

Very interesting. I am especially interested in this because I have recently acquired some artificial conscientiousness via habitual use of task lists.

Comment author: Metus 07 September 2011 11:50:30AM 0 points [-]

As a principle, things you can change are much more interesting for a literature review. For nootropics the change in IQ or other measure of even task-specific ability would be interesting to quantify. Similarily, personality traits and their payoffs are only interesting if is possible to change ones own personality.

Comment author: wedrifid 07 September 2011 12:12:43PM 2 points [-]

Similarily, personality traits and their payoffs are only interesting if is possible to change ones own personality.

Don't neglect the usefulness of understanding personality traits for the purpose of predicting the behaviors of others.

Comment author: Metus 07 September 2011 12:38:15PM 0 points [-]

You are right. Though in this respect any connection between ability and any trait is interesting.

Comment author: gwern 07 September 2011 12:46:30PM 1 point [-]

As a principle, things you can change are much more interesting for a literature review.

Very true, it's easier to make things pan out that way; 'understanding to predict', as wedrifid suggests, is real and valid, but harder to be measure so you know you are not wasting your time. Conscientiousness may or may not be a thing you can change, see the last line.

Comment author: Metus 07 September 2011 12:57:48PM 0 points [-]

Maybe that in itself would be an interesting topic: What you can actually change about yourself. Can you change your appearance? Your tastes? Your personality?

Of course it is easier to change and measure short-term effects such as a change in habits. Do any other, similarily easy to measure short-term changes and benefits come to mind? Any of those would be suitable for a literature review.

Your review of spaced repetition falls in this category for example. You can change how you learn and this change, especially the change in what you retain can be measured and has been measured.

Comment author: jsalvatier 04 September 2011 06:11:00PM 0 points [-]

I am reading Ericson's "The Role of Deliberate Practice in the Acquisition of Expert Performance" which you linked to in your spaced repetition review. It's quite interesting but seems to focus mostly on expert skill which doesn't seem that useful for most people. Do you know if there is an experimental literature on the more general topic of "skill acquisition and improvement"? Literature that deals with questions like if I'm trying to learn to do and understand math proofs easily or to learn to type correctly and efficiently or learning to do literature reviews well what are the strategies that I should expect to work well?

Comment author: gwern 04 September 2011 06:17:55PM *  1 point [-]

Do you know if there is an experimental literature on the more general topic of "skill acquisition and improvement"?

(I think you may be underestimating the value of deliberate practice, but if you don't like that, read the Handbook as well.)

Funnily enough, I just linked someone on IRC about that topic... I plan to start with page 43 of http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/2011/RAND_MG1120.pdf and see where the citations lead me.

Comment author: jsalvatier 04 September 2011 06:24:54PM 1 point [-]

Since I am currently trying to do skill acquisition along several fronts getting a lit review on this topic is very attractive to me. If you need papers you don't have access to, please email me as I have university library website access and will gladly search for them.

Comment author: gwern 04 September 2011 06:36:09PM 2 points [-]
Comment author: Craig_Heldreth 05 September 2011 08:17:04PM 1 point [-]

That is a huge document. Could you provide a useful pointer or two inside of it for useful findings for autodidacts?

Comment author: gwern 05 September 2011 08:36:42PM 0 points [-]

I'm afraid I can't since I've only read part-way through it. The best I can say is read the first chapter or the table of contents and look at the ones that look interesting.

Comment author: jsalvatier 04 September 2011 06:37:52PM 0 points [-]

Thanks!

Comment author: jsalvatier 04 September 2011 06:35:41PM 0 points [-]

Oh sorry, I do strongly suspect that deliberate practice is useful for skill improvement from at low to moderate levels, I am just curious what kinds are best and interested in seeing more experimental results (though maybe ericsson does this, I haven't finished).