shokwave comments on Open Thread: September 2011 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shokwave 04 September 2011 03:37:36PM *  7 points [-]

... Even YOU miss the point? guess I utterly failed at explaining it then.

Eliezer is not "the most capable of understanding (or repairing to an understandable position) commentor on LessWrong". He is "the most capable of presenting ideas in a readable format" AND "the person with the most rational concepts" on LessWrong. Please stop assuming these qualities are good proxies for, well, EVERYTHING.

Comment author: wedrifid 04 September 2011 06:30:00PM 6 points [-]

Eliezer is not "the most capable of understanding (or repairing to an understandable position) commentor on LessWrong".

Agree. I wouldn't go as far as to say he was worse than average at understanding others but it certainly isn't what he is renowned for!

Comment author: Armok_GoB 04 September 2011 08:41:48PM 0 points [-]

I though it was all just g factor + understanding of language.

Comment author: wedrifid 05 September 2011 08:12:47AM *  1 point [-]

Not quite. Having the right priors about other people's likely beliefs, patience and humility are all rather important.

There are some people who I consider incredibly intelligent and who clearly understand the language that I basically expect to be replying to a straw man whenever they make a reply, all else being equal. (Not Eliezer.)

Comment author: Armok_GoB 05 September 2011 10:44:13AM 2 points [-]

Eliezer has always come of as having plenty of those as well.

Comment author: Jack 06 September 2011 02:51:26PM 1 point [-]

"the person with the most rational concepts"

What does this mean?

Comment author: shokwave 07 September 2011 12:27:51AM 0 points [-]

Each one of his sequence posts represents a concept in rationality - so he has many more of these concepts than anyone else here on LW.

(I just noticed there's some ambiguity - it's the largest amount of rational concepts, not concepts of the highest standard of rational. [most] [rational concepts], not [most rational] [concepts].)