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I've been debating the validity of reductionism with a friend for a while, and today he presented me with an article (won't link it, it's a waste of your time) arguing that the consciousness-causes-collapse interpretation of QM proves that consciousness is ontologically fundamental/epiphenomenal/ect..
To which I responded: "Yeah, but consciousness-causes-collapse is wrong."
And then realized that the reasons I have rejected it are all reductionist in nature. So he pointed out, fairly, that I was begging the question. And unfortunately, I'm not sufficiently familiar with the literature on QM to point him to an explanation. Does anyone know an explanation of reasons to reject consciousness-causes-collapse that isn't explicitly predicated on reductionism?
You don't need to reject CCC without reductionism to defeat his argument. His argument is "If CCC is true, reductionism is false"
That's not a reason to reject reductionism, unless you have better reason to hold to CCC than to reductionism.