Molybdenumblue comments on What Direct Instruction is - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Owen_Richardson 05 September 2011 06:14:08PM *  0 points [-]

No, I'm on a full time internship as an elementary teacher. The theory I'm studying by myself.

I'm surrounded by people who know how to deliver DI programs, how to do superb classroom management, etc, but not by anyone who could read Theory of Instruction in one weekend and write a report on it (How many posts of lorem ipsum would Misha have to make for me to upvote for the karma system to accurately reflect the props he deserves :P).

But yeah, "Just Try It", right?

And it's the LW community that I have a strong emotional desire to get involved in, and the eventual intended audience anyway.

Comment author: gwern 05 September 2011 06:45:34PM 0 points [-]

But yeah, "Just Try It", right?

I'm not sure that advice is very good when the consequences of failure apparently made you contemplate suicide.

And when your post is sufficiently bad that a single editor could have diagnosed most of the problems, it's a little contemptuous of peoples' time to - in effect - run it simultaneously past dozens/hundreds of editors.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 September 2011 06:58:43PM 3 points [-]

You know, it's also possible to learn a totally different lesson here: We should be gentle with people, because they are often much more vulnerable than we assume. I would argue that this lesson is much more generally applicable than "Be more scared of failure."

Comment author: gwern 05 September 2011 07:02:35PM 3 points [-]

It's far easier to get the person with vivid memories of contemplating suicide to be more cautious than to get everyone in general to be more gentle.

Comment author: [deleted] 05 September 2011 07:21:48PM 1 point [-]

Well, that's certainly a good point, but I wasn't talking to everyone in general, either.

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 05 September 2011 07:38:59PM 0 points [-]

Please see "I wasn't contemplating suicide per se". I knew in advance that I would decide to keep fighting, as I always do. It is actually a technique I use to cheer myself up, rather like being underwater, and dipping down just a bit so that you can kick off the ground in order to spring back to the surface.

Comment author: Owen_Richardson 05 September 2011 07:36:04PM 0 points [-]

I certainly know I'm very careful thanks to my own experiences to avoid causing unnecessary pain to others, and in fact to try very hard to make people happier.

But I am not fragile. I hurt, but I never break.

I thanked people for their harsh criticism, remember.