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Comment author: Annoyance 03 April 2009 06:36:02PM -2 points [-]

I have no interest in joining a church, period. It doesn't matter to me whether that church spouts theistic nonsense or humanistic nonsense. I'm interested in what groups teach and what they practice, not in their rituals or atmosphere.

Certainly a rationalist group could avail themselves of techniques that make people feel good about the group. But people who join the group for the sake of those feelings, or who wouldn't join if their feelings carefully massaged, aren't rationalists. Bringing those people into the fold can only distract us from what's important and dilute the message. Syncretism requires a sacrifice of the essential nature of at least one of the two incompatible things associated.

Comment author: jimrandomh 03 April 2009 06:58:59PM 3 points [-]

So your reasoning is that this group has some similarity to churches, and churches spout nonsense, so this group spouts nonsense? Or is it that churches spout nonsense, so you don't want to join a church, so you don't want to join a group that looks like a church, regardless of whether it spouts nonsense?

Comment author: Annoyance 04 April 2009 02:27:35PM -1 points [-]

"So your reasoning is that this group has some similarity to churches, and churches spout nonsense, so this group spouts nonsense?"

Not at all. They identify themselves as humanist.