AlexU comments on Rationality is Systematized Winning - Less Wrong

48 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2009 02:41PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2009 04:16:12PM 5 points [-]

I guess when I look over the comments, the problem with the phraseology is that people seem to inevitably begin debating over whether rationalists win and asking how much they win - the properties of a fixed sort of creature, the "rationalist" - rather than saying, "What wins systematically? Let us define rationality accordingly."

Not sure what sort of catchphrase would solve this.

Comment author: AlexU 03 April 2009 04:21:28PM *  3 points [-]

Yes. Rationalism shouldn't be see as a bag of discrete tricks, but rather, as the means for achieving any given end -- what it takes to do something you want to do. The particulars will vary, of course, depending on the end in question, but the rational individual should do better at figuring them out.

On a side note, I'm not sure coming up with better slogans, catchphrases, and neologisms is the right thing to be aiming for.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2009 04:34:52PM 4 points [-]

Do not underestimate the power of poetry.

Comment author: Annoyance 03 April 2009 05:04:31PM -1 points [-]

Yes, but power to do what? Sometimes poetry conveys ideas and associations, sometimes it just annoys people.

Comment author: gwern 03 April 2009 07:33:10PM 1 point [-]

'Whatever wins is rational'?

'Winners are rational'?

'Rationality is winning'?

Hm. Sloganeering is harder than it looks.