astray comments on Rationality is Systematized Winning - Less Wrong

48 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2009 02:41PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2009 04:16:12PM 5 points [-]

I guess when I look over the comments, the problem with the phraseology is that people seem to inevitably begin debating over whether rationalists win and asking how much they win - the properties of a fixed sort of creature, the "rationalist" - rather than saying, "What wins systematically? Let us define rationality accordingly."

Not sure what sort of catchphrase would solve this.

Comment author: astray 03 April 2009 04:29:15PM 1 point [-]

It runs into problems elsewhere, but what about "Rationalism should win" ?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2009 04:34:29PM 2 points [-]

Well, that's wrong, but thinking about why it's wrong leads me to realize that maybe "Rationality should win" would have been a better move.

But I did also want to convey the idea that aspiring to be a rationalist means aspiring to be stronger, something more formidable than a debating style... well, I guess "rationality should win" conveys a bit of that too.