timtyler comments on Rationality is Systematized Winning - Less Wrong

48 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2009 02:41PM

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Comment author: thomblake 03 April 2009 08:00:05PM 2 points [-]

see http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/10/trying-to-try.html

It's really easy to convince yourself that you've truly, sincerely tried - trying to try is not nearly as effective as trying to win.

Comment author: timtyler 03 April 2009 08:23:17PM *  0 points [-]

As for the "Trying-to-try" page - an argument from Yoda and the Force? It reads like something out of a self-help manual!

Sure: if you are trying to inspire confidence in yourself in order to improve your performance, then you might under some circumstances want to think only of winning - and ignore the possibility of trying and failing. But let's not get our subjects in a muddle, here - the topic is the definition of instrumental rationality, not how some new-age self-help manual might be written.