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48 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 03 April 2009 02:41PM

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Comment author: infotropism 03 April 2009 08:37:58PM 4 points [-]

The rationality that doesn't secure your wish isn't the true rationality.

Winning has no fixed form. You'll do whatever is needed to succeed, however original or far fetched it would sound. How it sounds is irrelevant, how it works is the crux.

And If at first what you tried didn't work, then you'll learn, adapt, and try again, making no pause for excuses, if you merely want to succeed, you'll be firm as a rock, relentless in your attempts to find the path to success.

And if your winning didn't go as smoothly or well as you wanted or thought it should, in general, then learn, adapt, and try again. Think outside of the box, self recurse on winning itself. Eventually, you should refine and precise your methods into a tree, from general to specialized.

That tree will have a trunk of general cases and methods used to solve those, and any case that lies ahead, upwards on the tree; and the higher you go, the more specialized the method, the rarer the case it solves. The tree isn't fixed either, it can and will grow and change.

Comment author: timtyler 04 April 2009 08:02:21AM 1 point [-]

Re: The rationality that doesn't secure your wish isn't the true rationality.

Again with the example of handicap chess. You start with no knight. You wish to win. Actually you lose. Does that mean you were behaving irrationally? No, of course not! It is not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game.

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 April 2009 12:02:42PM 3 points [-]

Say "Rationalists are" instead of "Rationality is" and I'll agree with that.