gwern comments on An attempt to 'explain away' virtue ethics - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lessdazed 10 September 2011 10:20:52PM 2 points [-]

What was the self-assuredness of the 20,000? What was the self-assuredness of the 50?

What was the ability of the top 100, or 1,000, as against the top 50?

Comment author: gwern 10 September 2011 10:42:24PM -1 points [-]

Does any of that really matter? This is the same person who thinks a passel of cognitive biases doesn't apply to him and that the whole field is nonsense trumped by unexamined common sense. (Talk about 'just give up already'.)

Comment author: lessdazed 10 September 2011 10:44:16PM 2 points [-]

If the top 200 lie-detectors were among the 400 most confident people at the outset, I would think that relevant.

Comment author: gwern 10 September 2011 10:52:41PM -1 points [-]

And how likely is that, really?

This is the sort of desperate dialectics verging on logical rudeness I find really annoying, trying to rescue a baloney claim by any possibility. If you seriously think that, great - go read the papers and tell me and I will be duly surprised if the human lie-detectors are the best calibrated people in that 20,000 group and hence that factoid might apply to the person we are discussing.

Comment author: lessdazed 10 September 2011 11:15:27PM 2 points [-]

Seems like homework for the person making the claim, I'm just pointing out it exists.

I will be duly surprised if the human lie-detectors are the best calibrated people

Nit-pick, they could be the worst calibrated and what I said would hold, provided the others estimated themselves suitably bad at it.