paper-machine comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 9 - Less Wrong

10 Post author: Oscar_Cunningham 09 September 2011 01:29PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 10 February 2012 02:18:15AM 0 points [-]

Balefire's not even that bad, unless you're the Dragon Reborn and can balefire back more than a couple minutes.

Comment author: pedanterrific 10 February 2012 12:04:14PM 1 point [-]

That's not really fair. Balefire didn't get its bad reputation from Rand wiping out cities with it until the universe destabilized.

Comment author: [deleted] 10 February 2012 03:51:20PM 0 points [-]

My point was that you have to be a ridiculously powerful wielder of the One Power before being able to weave balefire stronger than a nuke. There's probably only a handful of people in the series that can do it, now that the Choedan Kal is broken.

Comment author: Desrtopa 10 February 2012 04:40:54PM 0 points [-]

But there's no shortage of people who could accomplish it cooperatively, if you get male and female channelers working together.

I'm sure that in Wheel of Time there were plenty of ways to obliterate a city with the One Power back in the Age of Legends. The issue isn't that it can obliterate cities, but that if you use it for wholesale destruction like that, unlike, say, explosions, it fucks up the very fabric of reality.

Comment author: gwern 10 February 2012 02:19:44AM 0 points [-]

Just get a circle of men and women...

Comment author: [deleted] 10 February 2012 02:21:07AM *  0 points [-]

No evidence that circle can weave balefire. But haven't read books after Crossroads, so maybe it appears later.

Comment author: Desrtopa 11 February 2012 02:14:44AM *  0 points [-]

Is there any evidence that there are things which can be woven individually which can't be woven by circles? I don't remember any.