PhilGoetz comments on Incremental Progress and the Valley - Less Wrong

38 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 April 2009 04:42PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 05 April 2009 03:15:27PM 0 points [-]

Everyone here except you is using 1.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 05 April 2009 03:55:16PM *  4 points [-]

Do you see how using 2 can better accomplish 1?

<EDIT> We think we can best maximize our utility by trying to maximize our utility. Evolution is a better reasoner than us, and designed us to { maximize our utility by trying to maximize our happiness }. </EDIT>

Comment author: [deleted] 18 April 2009 03:24:16AM *  1 point [-]

That nature is (always) a better reasoner than man isn't a credible premise, particularly these days, when the analogous unconditional superiority of the market over central planning is no longer touted uncritically.

Do you assume individual rationality's justification is utility maximization, even if we settle for second-tier happiness in proxy? Programmed to try to maximize happiness, we act rationally when we succeed, making maximizing utility irrational or at least less rational. Utility has nothing more to recommend it when happiness is what we want.

Another way of saying this is that happiness is utility if utility is to play its role in decision theory, and what we've been calling utilities are biased versions of the real things.