PhilGoetz comments on Morality is not about willpower - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Yvain 22 October 2011 11:22:28AM *  3 points [-]

At the risk of totally reducing this to unsupportable subjective intuitions...no, the two decisions wouldn't feel the same at all.

I can think of some cases in which it would feel similar. If one of the ticket-seekers was my best friend whom I'd known forever, and another was a girl I was trying to impress, and I had to decide between loyalty to my best friend or personal gain from impressing the girl. Or if one of the ticket-seekers had an incurable disease and this was her last chance to enjoy herself, and the other was a much better friend and much more fun to be around. But both of these are, in some way, moral issues.

In the simple ticket-seeker case without any of these complications, there would be a tough decision, but it would be symmetrical: there would be certain reasons for choosing Friend A, and certain others for choosing Friend B, and I could just decide between them. In the torrenting case, and the complicated ticket-seeker cases, it feels asymmetrical: like I have a better nature tending toward one side, and temptation tending toward the other side. This asymmetry seems to be the uniting factor behind my feeling of needing "willpower" for some decisions.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 22 October 2011 06:01:51PM 0 points [-]

Or, if I wanted to choose between a car with good gas mileage and one with good performance, that could seem moral. Or if I were choosing between a food high in sugar, or one high in protein. Or one high in potassium, or one high in calcium.

What's an example of an amoral choice?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 October 2011 08:20:10PM 1 point [-]

Choosing between two cars with equally good gas mileage and performance, one which has more trunk space and one which has a roof rack.