pedanterrific comments on Resources for quantum decision theory research - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Will_Newsome 14 September 2011 03:32:28AM 0 points [-]

Hahahaha. Yup, that part.

Comment author: pedanterrific 14 September 2011 03:47:34AM *  0 points [-]

Hmm. I upvoted your original comment but now it's back at 0. Is there some community norm against recommending music I don't know about or is there someone out there offended at all the naughty words?

(I mean, I get downvoting the original post because, well, that happens to everybody sometimes and the correct response is probably to sit on it for a week or two until you feel up to rewriting it, but frankly I can't follow the math anyway so what do I know.)

Edit: Also, "Reptile's Theme" needs moar dying Goron.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 14 September 2011 03:52:40AM *  1 point [-]

There's a community norm against most things I write (due to compounding perceptions of my not even trying to communicate with people and then getting frustrated when they don't understand things, among other things (like how my inability or unwillingness to communicate implies that I don't have anything to communicate and am just being masturbatory with all my hyper-abstract semi-technical talk)). It's not a strong one but strong enough such that my comments average about 1 to 3 less votes than they did like 6 months ago. As a result it would be unwise to generalize to other situations that don't involve me.

Comment author: pedanterrific 14 September 2011 04:24:57AM 2 points [-]

I find it interesting that you're aware you're being perceived this way without being able to change it (or do you not want to?).

In any case, upvoted for candid self-awareness, two qualities that should intersect more often.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 15 September 2011 12:00:52AM 1 point [-]

Unable; if I was in a counterfactual world where it was psychologically possible for me to put more effort into communicating clearly then I would probably do so. The intrapersonal motivational dynamics are complex but it basically comes down to: my dopaminergic system is fucked up and my mind is twisted around like sheet metal. Which has a lot of upsides and a few large downsides.

On the plus side I have wicked good procedural learning and am good at everything. On the minus side I cannot put forth any effort. I can't even make myself dinner or basic human tasks like that. But I can do 15 pullups despite never exercising. It's like I got everything I thought to ask for, including ambition, but not the ability to put it into action.

Sorry for soapboxing. It's like I'm trying to justify myself to someone who isn't here.

Comment author: pedanterrific 15 September 2011 12:19:15AM 1 point [-]

Well... that sucks.

Also, now I understand what

My not-passive-agressive apologies for being schizotypal. The marginal cost of my efforts is probably higher than your model suggests, but I realize that nonetheless I'm promoting suboptimal norms for what does or doesn't get to count as a well-intentioned effort at communication.

and

People also don't have a model of human psychology such that they realize it might be impossible for me to use motivational tactics like this, or they find it game theoretically advantageous to endorse a rule whereby even people who cannot make such concessions are to be punished for not making them anyway.

refer to.

Clearly, the proper response is to downvote everything you ever post whether it's unclear or not! I shall change my behavior accordingly.

(I am somewhat disturbed that at least seven people downvoted the original great-etc-grandparent comment without bothering to explain why they didn't like it.)

Comment author: Will_Newsome 14 September 2011 04:15:33AM *  0 points [-]

sit on it for a week or two until you feel up to rewriting it

(People also don't have a model of human psychology such that they realize it might be impossible for me to use motivational tactics like this, or they find it game theoretically advantageous to endorse a rule whereby even people who cannot make such concessions are to be punished for not making them anyway. Except it's hard for humans to be reflective about that kind of thing.)

Sorry, pedanterrific, don't mean to stuff your inbox.

Comment author: pedanterrific 14 September 2011 04:20:23AM 0 points [-]

No prob.

Perhaps I should have said "socially acceptable response" rather than "correct response."

...Yes, I definitely should have said that.