Swimmer963 comments on Complexity: inherent, created, and hidden - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Swimmer963 15 September 2011 03:03:03AM 1 point [-]

Maybe dividing things into a continuum of 'under the individual's control' to 'beyond the individual's control' doesn't make sense. It's still something my brain tries to do, and it still feels unfair that intelligence would so strongly determine outcomes.

Comment author: [deleted] 18 September 2011 01:27:57PM *  5 points [-]

One of the ways my mind perceives this is basically as a waste. "Look these two sacks of meat expend nearly the same amount of resources, yet one can't feed itself while the other has positive externalities it dosen't fully capture. The difference being 4 or 5 standard deviations caused by just a few thousand genes. Can't we find a way to fix up the less productive one rather than wasting all that negentropy to build a whole new one out of the same atoms?"

Also I'm generally in favour of letting people improve themselves, it really sucks from an eudaimonic perspective that we can't do anything about such an important aspect of ourselves.

Transhumanism ftw.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 15 September 2011 03:07:13AM 1 point [-]

Could you give an example of what you would consider 'fair'?

Comment author: MrMind 15 September 2011 06:56:37AM 7 points [-]

I think you can dissolve the argument by substituting "under individual's control" with "trainable".

Comment author: Swimmer963 15 September 2011 01:01:39PM 0 points [-]

I agree.

Comment author: orthonormal 17 September 2011 01:57:47PM 0 points [-]

I think Swimmer is talking about the same thing Eliezer pointed out in Why Are Individual IQ Differences OK?