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10 Post author: lukeprog 20 September 2011 03:10PM

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Comment author: scientism 20 September 2011 04:57:33PM 5 points [-]

I think this is quite crude. Obviously scientists don't have to wait for philosophers to get the right definition before they can proceed but scientists often end up barking up the wrong trees because of bad philosophy. It's like Keynes said about economists, "Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." The same is true of scientists who claim to have no interest in philosophy. (This is especially true in neuroscience where early practitioners had a very keen interest in philosophy and it shaped the whole field.)

There has always been interaction between scientists and philosophers. The current hostility to philosophy has more to do with trends in philosophy (naturalism) than trends in science.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 02 November 2011 03:40:11PM 2 points [-]

scientists often end up barking up the wrong trees because of bad philosophy

Examples, please?

Comment author: [deleted] 20 September 2011 05:00:55PM *  -1 points [-]

I thought the current hostility to philosophy was due to the development of instruments that provide answers to questions that were hitherto unanswerable.

ETA: Did I just unwittingly restate your point?

Comment author: scientism 20 September 2011 07:20:04PM 1 point [-]

No. To be clear, I meant that scientists are adopting the same hostility to traditional philosophy that some popular naturalistic philosophers do. I'm not sure what instruments you mean.

Comment author: [deleted] 20 September 2011 09:06:06PM 1 point [-]

Instruments like the telescope, microscope, satellite, fMRI, all render obsolete old maps, usually narrative ones.

I think I might be making a trite point, so I'll bow out now.