shokwave comments on Living bias, not thinking bias - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shokwave 23 September 2011 02:23:41PM 7 points [-]

Then at the end, everyone's comments made it clear that this wasn't the case. They really had realised that these were biases which effected them. The question then is, what led them to reach this conclusion?

They guessed the teacher's password

Comment author: MinibearRex 23 September 2011 02:27:35PM 4 points [-]

On these lines, what was your relationship to this group? You mention that you're a student, but if you're a TA, then their behavior is likely to be different than if you're another member of a club.

Comment author: crazy88 23 September 2011 11:09:47PM 1 point [-]

Fellow student. Though I'm not sure what conclusion to draw from that.

Comment author: crazy88 23 September 2011 11:02:14PM 3 points [-]

I didn't push this line explicitly so they weren't guessing the teacher's password in that sense, nor did I ask whether they thought biases affected them.

Instead, of their own volition, at the end they volunteered comments like, "I find that I'm most driven to learn when I realise I've been doing something wrong all along". People didn't make these sorts of comments in responses to other presentations given in the same environment.

In fact, they were so fascinated by the results that people continued to discuss them as they left the class and that definitely wasn't the case with other presentations.

I'm not denying you could be right but I'd love to know why you think that.

Comment author: shokwave 23 September 2011 11:19:38PM 2 points [-]

Ah, that sounds much better.

I'd love to know why you think that.

Mostly because of

There's one response that always haunts me when it comes to introducing bias: That's an interesting description of other people but it doesn't describe me ... So going into the presentation, this is what I was worried about: People thinking these biases were just abstract and didn't affect them.

It felt likely that due to your concern about "other people, not me" it would come across as the "right answer" in your presentation. But it's quite possible that's not the case, from your extended description.

Comment author: prase 23 September 2011 05:31:53PM 0 points [-]

Why do you think so?